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Salmon Task Force Proposals

From the Public, Volume 3

As of December 3, 2002

1. Finance

a. Preservation of Bristol Bay Resident Owned Permits (Art Woinowsky) ..............2

b. Combine Private Non-Profit hatcheries (PNPs) into Regional Aquaculture Corporations

(Hap Symmonds)...................................................................................................3

c. A Plan to Help Alaskan Salmon Fishermen Trapped in Debt (Bruce Hendrickson (S03M))

...............................................................................................................................4-6

d. Win / Win permit reductions (John Fulton) .........................................................7

2. Governance

a. To: Governance Subcommittee of the Salmon Task Force (A. J. Friedman).......8

b. Equity Protection for Fleet Reduction Programs(Victor Smith) ...........................9

c. Crew member license fees (Bob Widmann (S01E))............................................10-11

3. Production

a. Financial hardship of prince william sound salmon seiners .(Ed) ......................12

b. Fleet Reduction and the effects of permit stacking and fractional permits (Stuart Deal

(S03E) ...............................................................................................................13*

c. Legalize fishing more than one salmon area (John Crosbie). ............................14*

4. Quantity

a. Strides for higher quality salmon (R.I. Eliason Jr.)............................................15*

5. Marketing

a. Dennis Watson Mayor Craig Alaska ..................................................................16-18

6. Miscellaneous

a. The Kenai Peninsula Fishermen’s Association...................................................19-20

b. Fair Trade Plan (Bruce Hendrickson (S03M)) ....................................................21-23

c. All Sea foods (Walter Togiak) ............................................................................24

d. Northern Keta & Elisabeth Babich .....................................................................25-26*

e. Comments In Defence of the Hatcheries of Area E (Ken Adams (S03E)).........27-28*

f. Do I support Alaska’s board of fish process? If changes are necessary, what would I

suggest? (Brad Underwood (S04K))...................................................................29-30*

g. Al Bauman Kvichak Setnetters' Association (S04T) ........................................31-32*

h. Steven D Bruno...................................................................................................33-35*

i. Feryll Blanc (S04K) 11/25/02............................................................................36-37*

j. Stephen Taufen, founder Groundswell Fisheries Movement .............................38-41*

*recent submissions from November 22, 2002

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Finance

Title: Preservation of Bristol Bay Resident Owned Permits

Problem: A certain segment of the population are purchasing commercial fishing permits, in hopes that

permit stacking be allowed and that their permits will be favored.

Discussion: Permits have to be renewed at least every other year as to not jeopardize losing them.

Because the past three years have been an economic disaster many village fishermen have not been able

to afford to gear up for the fishing seasons, therefore they are in jeopardy of losing their permits.

Entrepreneurs have been purchasing those permits in hopes to use them should permit stacking be

allowed

Recommendations: If a permit holder can not afford to gear up for a fishing season, he/she should be

allowed to sign a notarized agreement that the permit will not be fished for a year. The fee should be

reduced to fifty ($50) dollars and the permit stay dormant for a year. This would help the permit holder

who could not afford to gear up for a fishing season and keep permits in local villages.

Name: Art Woinowsky

Address: Lot 2, Ugashik, AK 99613

Phone: (907) 797-2221

Fishery/Area T Bristol Bay Drift Gillnet

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Finance

Title: Combine Private Non-Profit hatcheries (PNPs) into Regional Aquaculture Corporations

Problem: High-cost PNPs do not give the maximum amount of benefit to the common property fisheries.

Discussion: The economy of scale of a larger number of hatcheries under one umbrella operation is a

known fact. The purpose of the hatcheries is to give as much fish back to the common property fisheries

as possible.

Recommendations: Bring all PNPs under the jurisdiction of the regional

aquaculture corporations.

Name: Hap Symmonds

Email: Hap.Symmonds@oceanbeauty.com

Address: P.O. Box 548, Cordova, AK 99574

Phone: 908.424.7171

Fishery_area: PWS seine fisheries

November 5, 2002

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Bruce Hendrickson (S03M), PO Box 1439

Homer, AK 99603-1439

Fishes Alaska peninsula, driftnet

A Plan to Help Alaskan Salmon Fishermen Trapped in Debt

The IRS offers a program called “Payment in Compromise” for those whose earning power has

ebbed to a point that full payment is impossible. This program allows the IRS to write down the debt to

a level that the debtor can afford to pay off in a short time.

For salmon fishermen whose payments to the Division of Investments exceed any net profit in

excess of the total of cost of living and cost of fishing, and whose permits are valued at less than 1/3 the

of original purchase price, the State may offer a refinancing alternative:

1) The value of the permit loan is written down to 1.25 times the 2-year average value of the

most recent permit sales or current offer price if no sales have been made in the past 2 years.

2) The debtor agrees to pay a mortgage on the permit amortized over 10 years at 6% (prime+1

with 9% cap), plus 10% of all fishing income in excess of $60,000 gross stock from all

fisheries combined. After 10 performing years, the permit belongs to the debtor.

3) The debtor may chose to fish or not to fish as long as he meets the above payment

obligations. Loan Extensions are possible for areas impacted by Board of Fish decisions,

with interest suspended, but an extended year is not a performing year.

4) If the fisherman chooses to liquidate rather than make the above payment obligations, the

state may retire the permit from the fishery.

5) If CFAB adopts this debt reduction plan, the State of Alaska pledges to seek reimbursement

of the sum of all debts written down since 1994 plus interest at 9% through the Alaska Office

of Fair Trade Investigation.

6) The Director of the State Division of Investments is instructed to provide the Alaska Office

of Fair Trade Investigation with a year by year account of all debt written down since 1994

with interest calculated at 9% in order to seek restitution from countervailing duties levied

against countries dumping salmon into US markets at prices “Less Than Fair Value.”

Why Provide Payment in Compromise Options for Alaskan Salmon Debtors?

Precedent in Agriculture

When farmers were impacted by cheap commodity imports in the 1980’s, the Federal Land Bank

used the Payment in Compromise principle to write down farm loans to a level that could be supported

by the new low crop prices. Land had fallen in value to about 1/3 of purchase value in many cases. Our

salmon permit prices, in contrast, are worth only about 7% of purchase price.

By the time terms of NAFTA were hammered out in 1994, farm bills protected the US farm

industry from growth in imports exceeding 3 % per year for some commodities to prevent the chaotic

disintegration of markets we experienced for salmon. Farmers are allowed to file for restitution if rapid

changes in trade cause economic losses under terms of NAFTA.

A State Office of Fair Trade Investigation should be charged with the responsibility of providing

a plan that our Congressional delegation, the USITC, and the USDOC can use to provide restitution to

the State, CFAB, and the fishermen under terms similar to those of NAFTA.

Being Fair to the State

The above program is fair to the State because it provides a mechanism whereby the State

collects 25% more principal with interest than it would by simply foreclosing and auctioning the permit.

The State Revolving Loan Program can get income from Alaskan fisherman that it would not get if the

permit were simply foreclosed and retired.

Furthermore, more stability in the fisheries could help CFAB. The program seeks to assist

CFAB in obtaining restitution for principal and interest losses associated with write downs done by

CFAB. CFAB can decide if they want to write down the loans and retire their collateral or if they would

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like to salvage some of present loan portfolios for distressed fisheries. The provision for freedom to fish

or not to fish, to use terms coined by Ed Crane, leaves the gate of the pasture is open so cows can go

find more feed and the pasture is not overgrazed.

Importantly, this Program provides an inherent insurance that the State will get a much larger

payment in the event prices actually improve during the next 10 years. If gross stocks go up as the

effects of improved trade laws are felt, the 10% provision compensates the State accordingly. If CFAB

adopts this approach for its distressed loans, it can recover much more than it would if it simply retired

its distressed permits.

Finally, the Office of Fair Trade Investigation is charged with the responsibility of finding

methods of obtaining restitution for the State, CFAB, and the fishermen funded by Antidumping Duties

on aquaculture imports, so that the goal of no net losses can be realized in the long term.

This plan provides much more value to the State than any other alternative.

Coastal Communities

Schools need a minimum number of students. Consider those living in villages of the Nushagak,

Kvichak, Egegik, and Ugashik drainages, for example. Allowing fishermen a means to survive through

this time of upheaval could save their schools, their families, and the stores that service them.

Giving fishermen a chance to overcome these hard times is a life and death issue for coastal

communities. Please make sure Robin Samuelson gets a look at the above plan, as well as the plan for

an Office of Fair Trade Investigation.

State Responsibility

In the case of areas like Area M and Cook Inlet, the State Board of Fish drastically cut fishing

opportunity in the 1990’s. When such a cut helps to push fishermen into default, the State should be

willing to take responsibility for that consequence and provide for a write down that takes the loss of

fishing area into account. The above program does not actually compensate the fishermen for such

losses, but it gives them a chance to fish. Probably for Area M and Cook Inlet the existing loan

extension policy should continue for years when ends may not meet due to Board rules changes made

after the original loan was made.

Is It Fair to the Debt Free Fisherman?

For the fisherman who stayed debt free after 1992 or who bought after the crash was complete,

there may be a feeling that they deserve some kind of special treatment, a chance to be the “last man

standing.”

If being able to provide adequately for your family while avoiding mounting interest expenses is

not enough, please bear in mind that you will be the main beneficiaries of the Fair Trade restitution

being justified by those of us who have lost much more.

I feel that most fishermen are simply too honorable to accept restitution for themselves while

denying assistance to others.

The above program is needs based. Nobody is going to drive around in a fancy new boat paid

for by the above program. Fishermen whose fisheries gain more gross stock make a bigger payment.

The above program recovers the maximum possible for each permit written down.

In contrast, foreclosure and permit retirement actually maximizes the cost to the Alaska Division

of Investments and CFAB (if CFAB were to live under the same standard that they want to force on the

State).

Regarding Fairness

“Life is not always fair” is not a good philosophy for the legislature to use as a basis for plans to

help the salmon industry. Good government seeks a fair standard.

Being Fair to the Fishermen

In my case, I rode a freight train from North Dakota to Seattle in 1973 in order to land my first

job on a boat bound for Alaska. I was Quality Control at Icicle Seafoods in Petersburg from 1978-1980,

and Production Supervisor for Marine Resources Company’s Russian Joint Venture from 1980-1985. In

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1985 I parlayed my life’s savings into an area M Setnet permit. In 1988 I was debt free. In 1995 I

traded the area M setnet operation for an area M drift operation, which promptly tanked.

My family has suffered plenty of nasty consequences for my mistake: more time apart for

herring, cod, crab fisheries, and odd jobs to try to fill the fiscal gap, trading the suburban for an old

truck, and living on austerity budgets including cutting out lattes and Thanksgiving with our college

children to name a few. I have a friend who is a 3rd generation Aleut fisherman who is faring no better.

He stands to lose what remains of the permit he bought from his father. My crab skipper stands to lose a

quarter of a century of work for the same reasons.

A fisherman from the Anacortes, Washington has suggested that the State “help” us by taking

back our permits and distributing our share of the resource among himself and the remainder of the fleet.

After having more than a quarter of a century of hard work in the Seafood Industry already standing at 7

cents on the dollar, does that seem fair to me? Is it fair to my buddies? How would you feel if you went

to the hospital in great pain and your Doctor offered to “help” you by summary execution so that your

hospital room could be made available for “more worthy” patients?

In the case of our area, the fleet has been reduced by over 1/3 due to fishermen finding other

work and retiring, without help.

A Fair Fleet Reduction Program

A buyback program must be fair to all, not coercive. National Marine Fisheries Service has a

program to assist buyback programs. Maybe the State could loan matching funds at low interest rates to

groups of fishermen who seek to access the NMFS Buyback program.

It is not possible to “voluntarily” give back a permit from a fishery where the full payment is

more than 50-100% of gross stock, the value of the permit is 7 cents on the dollar, and the fisherman is

short of living costs, because the circumstances do not permit freedom of choice.

The State can and should change these circumstances to be fair to the fisherman. This plan is

the right thing to do.

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Finance

Title: Win / Win permit reductions

Problem: Too many harvesters in many of the Salmon fisheries

Discussion: Limited Entry officials contend that permit reduction will cause lengthy court battles and

jeopardize the entire limited entry program currently used by the State of Alaska. We are also above the

optimum number of harvesters in many Alaskan fisheries. The value of salmon continues to decline

exacerbating the current situation with no end in sight.

Recommendations: I recommend permit reductions to a number / level that is 10% below the optimum

level in each salmon fishery. Then in an effort to avoid lengthy court battles, I propose a lottery style

right to fish for a fixed number of non-permit holders to produce the optimum number of harvesters for

each salmon fishery. Every year the optimum number of harvesters for each fishery would be

established by the preseason projected harvest and further modified by in-season adjustments to the

actual run size. By doing this I suggest that permit values will stabilize at reasonable levels (not too

high and not too low) and anyone who wishes to participate in a fishery will have an opportunity to do

so thus eliminating the “too exclusive argument” that is often heard by those afraid to think out of the

box on this issue.

The incentives for permit holders to sell permits back to the state should be multi-layered to achieve the

highest initial results (permits removed from each fishery). There should be two phases of a buy back

considered to achieve desired results. The first phase would be an outright cash value paid for the first

wave of permits, which would be established by the total number of permits issued by the state less the

optimum number for each separate fishery. During a second phase of the buy-back, the remaining

permits should not be allowed to transfer other than to direct family members until the desired results

(90% of optimum number) are achieved in permit reduction, no matter how long it takes to achieve. The

state and the fishermen of each area should pay half of the cost of permit reduction. The lottery could

also help pay a portion of these management costs on a long-term basis.

Name John Fulton

Email planning@nushtel.com

Address P.O. Box 522

Phone 907 842-1074

Fishery/Area Bristol Bay

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Governance

Title: To: Governance Subcommittee of the Salmon Task Force

Re: Permit Proposals

I am scared that I and my family may no longer be able to fish and process our salmon if current

proposals requiring me to buy more permits go into effect. I entered legally into the salmon fishery in

1986, and in 1995 I brought to completion a small processing building on land I bought near my setnet

site at Ekuk Beach, Nushagak Bay. I am American, I catch American fish, I process and bring to market

and sell myself my own salmon into the American market, specifically my neighbors and friends who

want to be able to obtain wild salmon that are otherwise unavailable in any store. I am doing what I am

supposed to be doing, right? I simply cannot afford to be required to buy more permits merely to

maintain my right to fish and obtain product, which I already have legally obtained. If you want to

change the rules for new entrants into the fishery, that is one thing, but to change the rules for me and all

current fishermen who have already invested into the fishery with our lives, is grossly unfair and

unethical. I make my living by fishing, and processing my own salmon in my own processing facility,

and selling them myself to individuals who appreciate the quality of wild Alaska salmon. I have brought

my fishing operation to the highest level, and I need my government to protect me, not run me out of

business. What proposals are there to protect small processors like myself who bring our American

salmon to the American market single-handedly? Throwing an insurmountable obstacle in my (our)

way by requiring small processors to come up with who knows how much money is not the way to

encourage American utilization of the American resource! If processor shares go through, will small

processors such as myself be allowed to process our usual and customary amount? Is any thought being

given to encouragement of small and family business, as opposed to multi-national corporations taking

control of our resource? Please, I implore the committee to consider the plight of small processors who

process their own fish, and devise a way to ensure they are able to stay in business and continue

providing quality food for their loyal customers who have no other way to obtain wild salmon. It would

be a travesty to force small processors out of business after they have worked so hard to build up their

businesses.

Thank you for your consideration. A. J. Friedman,

President and Owner of Friedman Family Fisheries

Address: 6109 Pimlico Rd. Baltimore, MD 21209

Phone: 410-358-3008

Fishery_area: Ekuk Beach, Nushagak Bay, Bristol Bay

November 1, 2002

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Governance

Title: Equity Protection for Fleet Reduction Programs

Problem: Fishing associations, lenders, and taxed fishermen, have no

assurance that permits won't be reissued in a fishery that they wish to

reduce.

Discussion: It will be dificult to get funding, and support for a

reduction program, unless those that are being asked to invest in the

program are confident that their investment is safe. This requirement of

the fishery needs to be balanced by the need to prevent a fishery from

becoming too exclusive.

Recommendations: Establish that:

A permit re-issued by CFEC in a fishery that was reduced by a

fishermen's association, should first be from the pool of permits

reduced by the association, and the accociation reimbursed their cost of

reduction of the reissued permit.

Name: Victor Smith

Email: sawmillcreek@rockisland.com

Address: PO Box 2477 Friday Harbor, WA 98250

Phone: 360-378-3639

Fishery_area: Southeast salmon seine

October 31, 2002

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Governance

Title: Crew member license fees

Problem: With the reduced financial rewards for crew persons it is difficult to hire qualified crew. It is

difficult to have only one crew for the entire season. The composition of the crews of many boats in

the last few seasons have often changed many times over past fishing seasons. The costs of crew license

is prohibitive for many potential crew persons.

Discussion: The era of returning professional fishing boats crews has come to an end. It seems like the

only people available for most crews are young inexperienced people who are either college or high

school students. Their school schedules often make them unavailable for parts of each fishing season.

This makes it necessary for boat skippers to hire multipal crews if they want to fish entire seasons.

Because the potential financial rewards are so low and costs to get to the fishing grounds and crew

licenses are so high good crew persons are difficult to obtain. Running a boat in a fishery is difficult

enough without the problem of keeping or hiring replacement crew. Something needs to be done to

make it easier to deal with the crew problem which exists in many of the Alaskan salmon fisheries.

Recommendations: As it now exists each crew person must buy an individual commercial fishing

license. If they fish for 2 weeks or 2 months the cost is the same and for most this cost is prohibitive.

The thought of having to come up with a sizable fee just to participate as a crew person on a commercial

is discouraging to potential crew.

This problem could could be solved if the crew licenses were issued to the limited entry permit holder.

The permit holder could buy 3 or 4 licenses and then make them available to the crew that works on his

boat. If the crew leaves before the season is over the license stays with the skipper to be available to the

replacement crew person. This would make it easier for a skipper to recruit crew and it would also make

it easier for him to find replacement crew from the pool of individuals who are currently available for

work in the commercial salmon fishery. I know of few boats who have had the same crew start the

season and end up seeing the conculsion of the fishery.

If the skipper had the option to buy the crew licenses himself then he could either make them available

to his rotating crew free of charge or he could prorate the cost of the license to the crew dependent on

the number of days served on his boat. This could be handled must the same way that fuel and food is

charged to crew persons.

I believe that this would have little or no financial inpact to the State. They State would get the same

crew person license revenue because basically the same number of licenses would be issued each

season. There might have to be some factor figured for the difference between resident and non resident

license fees but I am sure that this wouldn't be difficult to overcome. As skipper could purchase all

:"non-resident" licenses if he anticipated have a crew made up of nonresidents. The same could be

employed if a skipper was anticipating hiring only residents and he would have a lower crew license fee

to pay.

I think that this would have significant administrative value to boat skippers and make their crew

problem that much simplier.

Name: Bob Widmann

Email: bwidmann@cruzers.com

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Address: 4195 Old San Jose Rd., Soquel, CA 95073

Phone: 831-462-5409

Fishery_area: Salmon Seine Area E (S01E)

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Production

Title: Financial hardship of prince william sound salmon seiners .

Problem: The problem is supply and demand and the fact that there is cheap readily available salmon in

the world . Hatheries that were built on a 35 cent @ pound pink salmon .

Discussion: I am not sure what can be done about it . But I am totally against the idea of a co-op. I do

not believe that it is fair to those who have struggled through the tough times . Those of us that are true

fisherman keep fishing year around to make a living .

Recommendations: I wish there was a way to get rid of hatchery debt . Most of the seine operations were

built on the same 35 cent model . We need our share too met our budgets . We need a more fair division

of the value of the catch . There needs to be a cap on how much fish they can take .

Name: Ed

Email: pwsco@gci.net

Fishery_area: Prince William Sound

November 13, 2002

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Production

Title: Fleet Reduction and the effects of permit stacking and fractional permits

Problem:

Fleet reduction through permit stacking and fractional entry permits could be very helpful to fishermen,

but not if it occurs without complimentary measures to deal with the negative effects that would result

from even more intense competition.

Discussion:

If provisions for permit stacking, and fractional permits are accompanied by a quota based management

structure, these together can have a very positive influence on the salmon fisheries. Simply thinning

fleets would most likely perpetuate over-capitalization, and product quality problems that our industry

struggles with already. Regulation can be revised to allow a shift to quota-based management that can

maintain limited entry principles. Such changes are outlined as an experimental fishery in PWS

Proposal 49, which will be heard by the Board of Fish this winter. Under an experimental heading this

plan could enable fishermen to make adjustments to become more efficient, and produce better quality,

while consolidating the fleet as well. Solvency, efficiency, and quality problems cannot be solved

through measures that are isolated from one another. If the experiment did not bring about acceptable

results, or was unmanageable, the changes could be reversed.

Recommendations:

1. Special authority for the Board of Fish to allow for revision of regulation under experimental

headings could be put to good use. Test tube fisheries could develop real solutions for our industries

problems. 2. Consider the plan outlined in the proposal, and how the general idea can be applied to other

salmon fisheries. This is an integrated approach to our core problems, and it sets the stage for an

evolution of our methods that can make our industry stable, and our product competitive.

Name: Stuart Deal

Address: 7314 11th NW, Seattle, WA. 98117

Phone: 206 390 6353

Fishery/Area:Prince William Sound

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Production

Title: Legalize fishing more than one salmon area.

Problem: The problem is that it unfairly restricts fishermen.

Discussion: The law is already being usurped by some and its original

intent of spreading money to more people is now hurting people with its

restriction.

Recommendations: Times change and allowing people to fish more than one

area gives them diversification.Change the law.

Name: John Crosbie

Address: PO Box 1987 Homer AK 99603

Fishery_area: SO3T

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Quality

Title: Strides for higher quality salmon

Problem: Alaska's Wanton Waste laws.

Discussion: Alaska's Wanton Waste laws force processors into processing a less desired food grade

product. Egg driven markets have forced fisherman into catching the fish that contain high quality roe

with low quality flesh. This forcing processors into putting up very high volumes of lower quality fish.

This all at high cost of processing, leaving little value to both fisherman and processors. By taking low

quality fish off the market it leaves room for processors to buy more fish to supply their markets with a

higher quality of fish.

Recommendations: Rewrite the State of Alaska's Wanton Waste Laws.

Name: R.I. Eliason Jr.

Email: salmo@gci.net

Address: 709 Sirstad, Sitka, Alaska 99835

Phone: 907-747-8111

Fishery_area: SO3A

November 23, 2002

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Marketing

Problem:

• Alaska salmon are marketed has a whole, rather than in a manner that emphasizes sellable qualities

by region, by species by capture method…

• Many Alaska seafood processors are unwilling to adjust to currant market conditions.

• Alaska seafoods are often distributed in an inefficient fashion that does not provide necessary

oversight.

• Inadequate transportation infrastructure, exististing shipping options are often not user friendly.

Discussion: Alaska salmon fisheries differ dramatically from region to region, and many time’s

significant differences exist within a given district. Southeast for instances has seine, troll, gillnet and

setnet gear types in use. Each of these capture methods has it’s own degree of impact on the quality of

the harvested product, and certainly it’s applicability determined by species, harvest area, and the

management requirements of a given fishery.

Also in Southeast size, quality and species and other marketable features of salmon vary from one

harvest area to the next. This is chiefly a result of which drainage the targeted stock originates from, the

time of year it’s harvested.

On the issue of processors consider this. Through ASMI and various other entities Alaskan’s have

traveled through out the US and numerous foreign countries to identify markets for our seafood

products. Time and again the contacts generated through these efforts have complained that Alaska

seafood processors, particularly the larger corporations, have been unwilling to do business with them.

These complaints range from not returning phone calls, to unwillingness to size shipments or to modify

products to meet the requirements of their markets.

The processor rebuttal as been, we have an established customer base and a way of doing business that

works for us. This manner of doing business as best I can ascertain, consists of filling large orders with

inconsistent quality product. In addition, I have talked with representatives from these same fish

companies that basically blow-off the issue of value added seafood processing. They claim that the

additional effort and expense is not in their company’s best interest.

Thankfully not all Alaska processors embrace this attitude. Unfortunately it is pervasive enough to

create a stigma that is not helping our sagging industry, and frankly has played right into the hands of

the market and service oriented farmed salmon industry.

Also at issue is a distribution system that uses sometimes several layers of middlemen (brokers, agents)

between the point of processing and the consumer. The result of this practice is the inability to

effectively track product in an industry that demands close scrutiny. Without hands-on control of

seafood products it is impossible to insure quality and limit misuse of company packaging and labels.

This mode of doing business also generates significant unnecessary costs that ultimately come out of the

catcher’s pocket.

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Because of the limited market in this state one large air carrier flies most of the specialty and fresh

seafood out of Alaska. Through my own experiences and those related to me by both large and small

processors, the relationship with the airline is not one that is responsive to the needs of the fishing

industry. The primary complaint is lack of available space to ship fresh product in a timely manner, and

frequency of service.

Because I am not familiar with the surface transportation needs of the northern reaches of the state my

focus is on Southeast. Currently Southeast has two hard-links to the mainland BC road system. The most

well used road is through Haines and to a lesser degree and on a more seasonal basis the Skagway route.

Easy access to the mainland road system has enabled area seafood processors to ship fresh and frozen

product to market via truck and trailer. The benefits of road access are efficient and cost effective

movement of goods. This has translated into good dock prices to fishermen. Southern Southeast’s access

to the road system is through the Port of Prince Rupert. Currently the only means to reach Prince Rupert

is through the Alaska Marine Highway System. This presents some problems. Only vessels qualified to

land in foreign ports can be used, AMHS seems to have fewer of these each year. It is slow, expensive

and lacks in the frequency of service, and consistency in scheduling necessary to meet the needs of the

seafood industry.

Recommendations; Develop a salmon marketing program that allows different regions of the state to

individually focus on the unique marketable qualities of the product harvested in that area. Such as,

Chilkat Sockeye, Taku Coho or Southeast Troll caught winter king…

This effort in many respects would mimic the Copper River program, with a local spin on it. ASMI

would be an exelent vehicle to organize this effort. But, ultimately the motivation, energy and local

knowledge necessary for it to secede must come from an experienced group of industry representatives

from each region. Similar ideas have been discussed for years with little progress on implementation.

Now, with a new state administration coming into office and a federal delegation standing ready to

support legitiment efforts to revitalize the salmon industry, the opportunity to move on this issue could

not be any better.

I know is not possible for the state to require seafood processors to diversify or to mandate that they

address the needs of currant market trends. But possibly, the state could reward those that do with tax

considerations or other meaningful incentives. A visit to a fish market or a large supermarket is a virtual

showcase of what other seafood producing states and countries can offer if they are willing to go the

extra yard. Alaska should be a leader in this effort, instead of being conspicuously missing.

In order to assure product quality and timely shipment of Alaska seafood the industry needs to embark

on a wholesale streamlining of the distribution process. Focusing on direct shipments of seafood from

processor to market will provide the necessary control to insure a premium product reaches the

consumer. Trimming down the number of middlemen involved in marketing will also transfer money

from undeserving hands back to fishermen and coastal communities.

Encouraging competition in the airfreight business is the best way to facilitate more frequent and less

expensive air transport, and should be pursued. A daily freight only air route that services coastal Alaska

is a must. Aircraft used on this rote must be able to land at large and small airports. The southbound

flight would allow Alaska seafood better access to markets in Canada and the lower 48, and provide a

more frequent and direct means of connecting with foreign bound flights. The northbound run would

provide easy access to Anchorage markets and to connecting flights to Pacific Rim countries via

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Anchorage International. To address the immediate situation, the state and the seafood industry need to

come to an understanding with Alaska Airlines. That would satisfy the needs of the industry, in a

reasonable and consistent manner.

Both Chile and Norway have made a fine art of coordinating the needs of their seafood industries with

air transportation. There is no reason why Alaska can not do the same.

Step up the effort to design and construct the Bradfield Canal Road. The Inter-Island Ferry Authority,

with it’s present route between southern Prince of Wales Island and Ketchikan, and it’s soon to be route

connecting northern Prince of Wales, Wrangell and Petersburg, would with the completion of the

Bradfield Canal Road provide the benefits mainland highway access to all of these communities.

I offer these comments for the task force’s consideration. It may seem like I have singled out a just a few

guilty parties as responsible for the industries present condition. The fact is there is plenty of

circumstance and blame to go around for all. Alaska’s wild salmon industry can get back on its feet.

This task force is an excellent means to jump-start that process.

Thank you,

Dennis Watson

Mayor Craig Alaska

Box 725

Craig Alaska 99921

mayor@aptalaska.net (907)826-3275 fax 826-3278

Salmon Power Troller/Southeast

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October 31, 2002

The Kenai Peninsula Fishermen’s Association appreciates the efforts of Senator Austerman and others

in attempting to define the needs of the commercial fishing community. This Joint Legislative Salmon

Industry Task Force is necessary to enlighten our elected officials on the complexities of the salmon

industry.

It is unfortunate that to this date the legislature has failed to counter act the negative forces that are

attacking the fiber of our states fishing communities. We are in a global war with other forms of protein

throughout the world. Our country touts the principles of free market enterprise that allows the sale of

big ticket items abroad but ignores the effects of cheaper imported goods sold here in America. The

backbone of our economy is predicated on the small independent business, they allow our rural

communities to survive. When it comes to the pressure of big business integrating in to a foreign market

and strategic defense initiatives, our current administration will sacrifice Alaskan small businesses.

Recent trade negotiations with Chile have resulted in a green light for the salmon farming industry to

continue to export salmon into our country. The onslaught of large scale aquaculture industries will

continue to grow. In Chile the hourly wage is about $1.30 per hour. There is no unemployment benefit

and the government works with industry on all levels of regulations. The investors flock to take

advantage of the areas of the world that will allow them to reap huge benefits without worry of

government intervention. The Chileans are the force today but tomorrow it will be China and Russia.

They are funded by American and European investors with huge investment pools. They will not only

finance the operations from the start but they will facilitate sales to other associates within the

investment pool. A closed circle that stifles competition and chokes the small entrepreneur. This is the

future of the seafood global economy and it is one reason why the Alaska Salmon Industry will not

survive without governmental involvement.

KPFA has attended several different organized attempts from various entities in this state to understand

the issues. To date, we have not found any answers that would allow us to set a course to stabilization.

We believe that this task force has inherent flaws within its conception. This committee’s premise

believes that it can fashion a solution that will work as a framework for the entire state. At the same time

it concedes that there is no one solution fits all scheme. KPFA has argued that you must first attempt to

review each region of the state as a separate and distinct entity. You must understand the cultures and

the history of an area. Analyze the economics and speculate the future. Imperative to the

process is to facilitate in whatever fashion that is necessary discussions and commitments from the

fishermen, the communities they live in, the local businesses and the local governments. In order to

devise change you must build consensus and thus direction from the smallest unit. Then you build on the

common concepts in to a community plan, a regional plan and finally a statewide plan.

The fishing community in Cook Inlet has suffered severely from government intervention. Each year

there is a new set of rules that must be complied with before ever entering the water. The inconsistency

in policy has resulted in stagnation of the Inlet’s processing industry. It is our greatest concern and it

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denies us the ability to evaluate solutions for industry revitalization. There is not one commercial

fisherman in the state that is not aware of the political turmoil in Cook Inlet. Yet many of the task force

participants have publicly stated that they will not take up regulatory issues or boards in this committee.

This lack of consideration of our most poignant issue has many of us believing that this task force is

dead on arrival.

KPFA is predominately a set-net fishing group and is concerned that the states largest Commercial

Salmon Fishing Limited Entry Permit group is so poorly represented on this panel. The majority of the

solutions presented by many involve mobile fleets. We are not invested in only a boat and a permit, but

in Cook Inlet we have invested in real property or have acquired leases from the state. Set-net sites are

site specific; this means that location is more of an indicator of economic success and equal opportunity

to harvest

is not a practical way to evaluate this fishery.

A limited discussion with other set-net fishermen within the state is that they are confused at how

revitalization will help them? Some want to discuss change but feel threatened from the obvious mobile

fleet representation on this board. What processing industry representative speaks for Cook Inlet set-net

fisherman?

In conclusion, we believe that Cook Inlet needs a comprehensive review of its own. It needs to have

funding to facilitate analysis. It needs to gather a vision by incorporating the views of the set-net

commercial fishing families. We need a long range plan that will allow consistency in regulations and

sustainability in the resource. Any other actions that do not include these concepts will result in useless

dialogue and will collapse the commercial fishing economy in Cook Inlet.

Sincerely,

The Kenai Peninsula Fishermen’s Association

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Bruce Hendrickson (S03M), PO Box 1439

Homer, AK 99603-1439

Fishes Alaska peninsula, driftnet

November 20, 2002

Alaska needs an Office of Fair Trade:

The legislature should direct the Governor to set up an Office of Fair Trade to sift through the

rubble of the Maine salmon farmers’ case and Trade Laws at the US International Trade Commission

(USITC) and the US Department of Commerce (USDOC) in Washington, DC. The general objective is

to obtain restitution for those who suffered enormous losses through the ‘90’s, to obtain fair pricing for

salmon in the future, and to head off a similar downward spiral in black cod and halibut prices as

aquaculture takes root for those species. In order to achieve these objectives, the Office should be

charged with the following responsibilities:

1) Determine what the State should be testifying in these investigations and how best to form an

alliance with the salmon farmers of Maine and Washington. Are there any applications of existing trade

law that can help Alaska?

2) Seek restitution for the State of Alaska, its salmon fishermen, and the boat builders, gear retailers,

and coastal enterprises suffering “material injury” from imports of aquaculture salmon sold at prices

“Less Than Fair Value”.

3) Inform and direct the Congressional delegation how best to enact laws that:

a) Close loopholes in GATT and other laws that allow Chile to ship duty-free 10 times as much

salmon (round basis) to the US as in 1990, when any other food or agricultural commodity would have

been regulated to an increase of only about 3 % a year duty-free under NAFTA.

b) Prevent Japan and other nations from using internal transfer pricing to purchase salmon from

subsidiaries in Alaska without fair market bids.

c) Prevent internal transfer price structures from being used as a means of tax evasion for foreign

firms operating in the US.

d) Determine whether a foreign firm that owns subsidiaries in other countries that compete

directly with the products of a US subsidiary should be allowed to own the US Subsidiary.

e) Prevent foreign parent companies, such as those of Japan, from using the favorable status of a

different country that hosts a subsidiary, such as Chile, to gain more favorable terms of trade than they

would get on their own.

4) Report to the Governor, the legislature, and the salmon industry an annual report on the State of Fair

Trade Investigations.

5) Assist ASMI with the job of assuring the National Restaurant Association that supplies of salmon

will remain readily available and that their advocacy for the Chileans against Alaskans is contrary to

mutual long term interests.

6) Identify emerging threats of material injury to black cod and halibut fishermen and initiate

antidumping or countervailing duty actions at USITC and USDC before it is too late.

Why Do We Need an Office of Fair Trade?

Price is the problem.

This is going to require a Legislature and a Governor who care deeply about whether the salmon

fishermen live or die, who want to do more than band-aid our industry with programs that divide the

leftovers among fewer industry participants. The problem is not too many boats, nor is the problem the

list of quality improvements yet to be made, nor is it too few advertising dollars. The problem is too few

dollars for our salmon. Price is the problem.

USITC and the Maine salmon farmers:

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The US International Trade Commission (USITC) has issued a final determination in July, 1998,

that Chilean salmon imports caused "material injury" to Maine salmon farmers due to sales in the US at

"Less Than Fair Value" (LTFV). Conspicuously absent from the legal depositions in the case was the

State of Alaska and any other victims from the Alaskan salmon industry. I have no idea why. One

possibility is that vigorous advocacy for Chilean imports came from the National Restaurant

Association, Miami Chamber of Commerce, and numerous US seafood distributors, whose testimony

revealed their misconception that they would be unable to import or buy salmon if an Antidumping Duty

or Countervailing Duty Order (AD/CVD) was to be ordered by USDOC.

USDOC and the Chileans

Almost every year since 1997, the US Department of Commerce’s Import Administration has

been reviewing USITC findings to determine whether the Chileans were selling at Less Than Fair Value

due to "Dumping" or due to a "Countervailable Subsidy" as defined in the Tariff Act of 1930. From

July 1, 1999 to June 30, for example, they could find only negligible evidence of a countervailable

subsidy. The determination was not made until spring of 2002. There were delays and exemptions that

showed the fruits of lobbying done by the attorneys enlisted by Chile.

Pressure of USITC and USDOC investigations on Chile may have improved price in 1999 and 2000.

During 1999 and 2000 both the USDOC and the USITC were examining Chile’s salmon trade

practices. The Chileans were pressing an appeal of the USITC Final Ruling at the US Court of

International Trade from August of 1998 through October of 2000.

It may be no coincidence that my salmon earnings in 1999 and 2000 were about double the salmon

income for 2001 and nearly triple that for 2002. Maybe the Chileans were wearing halos during the

1999 & 2000 seasons, in order to evade an Antidumping Duty Order. The Chileans have been playing a

game of stall and evade, while the cause of the unfair pricing goes undiscovered.

A puzzling set of results emerged from the investigations: USITC was able to show that “Less

than Fair Value” pricing was causing “Material Injury” to the salmon farmers from Maine. The

USDOC was unable to conclusively prove “Dumping” or “Countervailable Subsidies” by the salmon

farmers of Chile or their government. Yet reports from Chile indicate that even some Chilean salmon

farmers were going bust due to the extremely low prices of the last 2 years.

If the Chileans are selling well below their own cost of production year after year without help

from their own government, then who is absorbing their cost of 'buying' the US market?"

We are our own enemy.

The Alaskan salmon industry absorbed the Chileans' cost of selling below production

expenditures, at least in the case of firms owned by the Japanese.

The problem of having some of our best buyers owning Alaska processors, aquaculture farms in Chile,

and being allowed to dictate internal transfer price for Alaskan salmon:

For example, Nichiro owns Peter Pan as well as some large Chilean aquaculture firms.

Nichiro's subsidiaries in Chile, or rival Chilean aquaculture firms acted to torpedo markets by dumping

salmon in Seattle in June of 2001 for 1.05/ lb. Nichiro had the resulting opportunity to make a large

profit by buying their share of Alaska's production of all 5 salmon species at a huge discount. For the

entire Alaskan industry, low prices saved Alaska's entire customer base a total in excess of 200 million

dollars a year in each of the last 2 years. The ex-vessel values of our Alaska salmon plummeted from

500 million dollars a year in the late '80's to less than or around the 200 million dollar range now.

Chile's aquaculture can continue to grow beyond its own means due to subsidies that are coming right

out of, well, my own pocket. Since much of the 200 million dollars saved by Alaska's customers was

what was once was our net fishing income, we also show no taxable income for the last 2 years. This

means that the USDOC has been trying to find subsidies from the Government of Chile while the real

subsidy is coming from the USA, through Japan.

A handful of very powerful Japanese companies have found a technique of business jiu jitsu,

where Alaskan salmon dollar losses can be turned against us and used them to fund the Chilean takeover

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of the US market instead. They can manipulate profits from the US or Chile as needed. If they want to

expand the aquaculture market share, they can dump the price on aquaculture salmon and take the

profits on cheap Alaskan salmon at the distribution level in Japan. If they want to expand profit level on

Chilean sales, they can increase prices for Chilean salmon and raise Alaskan salmon prices. Heads they

win, tails we lose.

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The Hazard of Unregulated Trade:

It is like a stock option hedge fund in that it was designed to protect the investor (Nichiro); and,

in that it exacerbates market meltdowns, as the cycle of price cuts spirals out of control. Alaska and

Chile raced to the bottom in prices in the mid 90’s and the first years of the new millennium. An

epidemic of bankruptcies plagues both Alaska and Chile.

Furthermore, the stress on Chilean-owned salmon farms in Chile could leave Nichiro as one of

the last Sumo wrestlers standing in the shrinking ring of salmon suppliers.

We have given the Japanese plenty of reasons to take advantage of us: (strikes, the Bristol Bay

price fixing lawsuit, some avoidable bruised salmon, and some salmon that had inadequate chilling).

However, the main reason they are taking advantage of us is because they can. Also, it pays extremely

well. Only a well-crafted set of laws can prevent this from continuing to destroy our industry.

Decisive Government Action Justified

Despite our longstanding good relationship with Japan and their status as our best market, the

time has come when the Japanese abuse of our trust must be confronted. It would be best if this

confrontation and investigation is carried out by the US government with guidance from the state of

Alaska, rather than the Alaska salmon industry, which loses any remaining good will when fishermen

directly confront our long standing Japanese customers. Nichiro has done much to improve the quality

of Alaska salmon products.

The State and Federal governments have a substantial stake in this due to the costs of lost taxes,

remedies, and increased demands for financial aid caused by the failure of Alaska’s salmon industry.

The Alaska Division of Investments stands to lose about 20% of its portfolio, as does CFAB. Repeated

emergency declarations and dramatic increases in the number of fishermen applying for public

assistance added costs to our State’s social service agencies such as Denali Kid Care.

Furthermore, the State and Federal governments provide for due process and have the resources

for a protracted investigation, so that a solution carries the force of informed judgement, rule of law, and

the perception of fairness. Obviously, the Japanese, the Chileans, and the American Restaurant

Association are not going to give us back our 200 million dollars a year unless they are forced to.

Fishermen alone cannot make this happen.

Paychecks will keep coming for the employees at USDC, whether we get remedy or not. Only

our elected legislature and Congress can get things rolling in the right direction. This Legislative Task

Force is the ideal place to start.

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Miscellaneous

Title: All Sea foods

Problem: Hazardous waste, disasters, must get involved with clean up, to begin with the start of high

quality oceans, rivers, bays, districts, etc…

Discussion: All oceans, navigable water users or developers of any type of water use must be, try to be

as close as possible as waste free.

Recommendations: Let all that use sea foods be aware of any contaminated or health hazard to human

consumptions, be dated.

Name Walter W. Tukayak Email

Address PO Box 158 Togiak, AK 99678

Phone 907-493-5120 (not connected)

Fishery/Area Bristol Bay salmon

November 21, 2002

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November 29, 2002

Northern Keta

Elisabeth Babich

2601 Channel Drive

Juneau, Alaska 99801

To the Salmon Task Force,

It seems ironic that while fishermen are encouraged to direct market their fish and ASMI tries hard to

help fishermen with its publications and advice, our government actually discourages it by taxing them

higher than a traditional processor.

There is not much incentive for a fisherman to try this as long as they have to deal with the way the fish

tax regulations are interpreted.

On way to increase the quality of our wild salmon in the market place is by making it worthwhile to the

fisherman or direct marketer to do something about it.

The current system does not encourage this.

A fisherman who decides he cannot survive by selling his salmon in the round will try to cut out one or

two middlemen and look into direct marketing his salmon.

It takes a lot of extra work and money, both on board (processing) and often on shore

(Unloading, boxing, trucking). He has to hire a deckhand just to keep up, he has to make many phone

calls to market his fish and arrange the transport.

The fish he sells is usually of high quality since it was bled, dressed and chilled immediately after it was

caught. So he get a better price for his fish and as an added bonus he can sell the by-products like roe or

milt. Still, he has to pay wages to the extra deckhand, cover ice, packaging and transport costs and pay

the applicable taxes.

And here is where the inequity comes in:

Example 1:

For some reason, his tax (Enhancement & Marketing Tax) are based on the value added price of the

processed, head on, fish (price he receives) and separately again on the by- products like roe.

In essence, he gets penalized for trying to realize more of the value of his fish and trying to bring a better

product to market.

Example 2:

Let’s say he has an order for processed, head off fish.

He now has to write a fish ticket himself, pay the Enhancement & Marketing Tax AND he then has to

pay 5% “raw fish tax” because is a “floating processor”.

Example 3:

In the mean time, had he stuck to the old system where he sells his fish in the round and this fish gets

tendered to a shore based plant, we now have a fish that is several days old and still not dressed, bad for

the fish and the roe. He gets a low price for his fish and can’t make any money.

Now the raw fish tax paid by the buyer for this product is 3% based on the round price NOT the value

added price of fish and roe.

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Confused yet?

Well, it is time to change these regulations and give the direct marketer fishermen some fair and equal

treatment. I you want high quality wild salmon to hit the market; you have to give them some incentives.

These regulations where made a long time ago and the fisheries and the market place have changed

drastically since then

Suggestions:

1) 3% “Raw Fish Tax” plus Enhancement and Marketing Tax for the all salmon in the round based on

the grounds price across the board for everybody!

2) Get rid of the head on and head off distinction, it is confusing and unnecessary.

If this is not possible, then, to be fair, maybe we have to look at assessing all processors based on the

value added price for both fish and by-products like roe.

We have to realize the days when the salmon fisheries were the big money makers are long gone and

maybe it is time to look at the new “money making industries” a little closer when it comes to taxing

them and dishing out subsidies.

Best regards

Elisabeth Babich

Ex-gill-netter and “direct marketer”

Small processor

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November 27, 2002

Alaska Legislative Salmon Industry Task Force

Dear Sir: Please accept my comments relevant to your discussions of the state hatchery program. I am a

resident of Cordova and will limit my comments to the hatcheries of Area E, Prince William Sound and

the Copper River.

Title: Comments In Defence of the Hatcheries of Area E

Problem:

The very existence of the legislative Task Force underlines the precarious status of the state’s

commercial salmon fisheries. In general, market conditions for most species have plummeted and much

of problem can be traced to impacts of farmed fish in the marketplace. However, hatchery production

successes may be viewed by some as a contributor to decline in value of our salmon as well.

The question of implementation of a statewide hatchery policy and related issues suggest that a change

from the status quo may be needed to address some aspect of the salmon industry’s dilemma.

Since I’ve been a fisherman that has benefited mainly by the area’s pink salmon hatchery production,

I’ll direct my comments to that species.

Discussion:

The hatcheries of Prince William Sound are predominately, by number of fry released, pink salmon

hatcheries. For example, combined annual releases from Valdez Fisheries Development Association

(VFDA) and Prince William Sound Aquaculture Association (PWSAC) are in excess of six hundred

million pink salmon fry.

There are good historical reasons why the focus of this region’s production is directed to pink salmon.

Prince William Sound was the first region statewide to experience total season fishing closures due to

poor adult pink salmon returns. This was the case in years ’54,’55’59’ 74’and ’75. The hatchery

programs were created to address the fact that wild pink production in this area can be extremely erratic.

The hatcheries provided the means to achieve much needed stability for the fishery. However, there may

be some that would argue that our production success only adds to the processing problems created by

bounteous wild stock harvests of the past decade which have resulted in low ex-vessel prices. The

canned salmon industry has been swamped by years of consistently high pink harvests.

With respect to this problem and in defence of hatcheries in area E, somewhere between 25% to 50% of

our total pink harvest goes into products other than the can. This development was in response to an

effort made in the mid ‘90’s that successfully involved Bering sea Pollock processors in our pink

fishery. Alternate product forms are predominately frozen fillet blocks, mince, and fish meal. These

products don’t compete in the marketplace with canned salmon.

Secondly, salmon production is not consistent when viewed over long periods of time. Production was

low statewide from the ‘50’s up to the end of the ‘70’s. From that time up to near present years,

favorable environmental conditions allowed high production levels of salmon in Alaska. It now appears

we may be embarking upon a “regime shift” and possibly returning to years less favorable to salmon

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production . If that is the case, hatchery contributions to declining wild stocks are likely to offer much

needed sustainability as we re-visit the conditions for which the hatcheries were designed back in the

mid ‘70’s. The ultimate benefit to be derived from hatchery production may be yet to be seen.

Recommendation:

Due to the differences in hatchery production in the state by species and area, the attempts by hatchery

operators to relieve abyssmal market conditions by encouraging salmon product forms other that canned

salmon, and the need for hatcheries to maintain maximum flexibility for response to changing

environmental and market conditions, it is unwise and unnecessary to form a uniform statewide hatchery

policy or alter the status quo for relationships between the state and hatcheries. The hatcheries have

made major contributions to the state’s salmon production and they are an integral part in the state’s

fishing economy. The Regional Planning Teams adequately maintain surveillance of hatchery operations

on a regional basis and on a regional basis hatchery oversight should remain.

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Do I support Alaska’s board of fish process? If changes are necessary, what would I suggest?

The local advisory committees need to be given a more important role in the decision making process.

Currently, they are often ignored completely. Many of these committees are thoroughly knowledgeable

with the local issues and have a much greater understanding than the BOF ever will. I don’t know how

to work this balance out but in the recent past, advisory committees have been pretty much left out of the

process. They need to be worked back in somehow. Maybe when the local committee votes on

proposals, this tally would count on some sort of weighted basis with that of the BOF. From my

experience with the BOF I think that what I’m suggesting might be a direction that could be considered.

I know that the BOF has a tremendous workload and it’s amazing that they can get through it all but that

brings me to another area that needs to be reviewed. What I am referring to is the committee process.

As a means of streamlining the decision making this idea has merit and is successful but it also has a

serious downside. It takes the decision making process out of the hands of seven people and delegates it

to the 2 members that run the committee. When these 2 members get back to the board, they present

their findings and suggestions which are usually rubber stamped. Decisions made on important fisheries

issues should not be entrusted to the evaluations of 2 individuals. This is a breakdown in the democratic

process. Yes, going through all 7 members is cumbersome but it opens up the opportunities to discuss

the issues within a larger framework and is a lot less susceptible to vested interests which can lobby 2

board members a lot more effectively that 7. Special interest groups would find it more difficult to

manipulate the BOF than under the current system. This leads back to the point of giving the local

committees more say. They already do much of the legwork of the BOF by going over proposals and

deciding on their merits. It would be a tremendous saving of time if these committee recommendations

were given more importance as opposed to being ignored.

Another weak link with the BOF process is that they have tremendous statutory authority and they

answer only unto themselves. The BOF is supposedly made up of members that have great expertise but

often times that is far from the truth. How many commercial fishermen have we seen on the BOF

lately? Not many. If you truly want expertise, these are the people that have it. The make up of the

BOF needs to have a greater representation from commercial fishermen. In addition, I would like to see

the creation of some sort of overseeing body to which the BOF would have to answer. In particular,

whether or not it followed due process, etc. It just seems irresponsible to give a body so much unbridled

authority without the slightest checks and balances.

Here is a summation of my main points:

1) Give more power to the local advisory committees.

2) Get rid of the committee process on the BOF. Make all 7 members part of the decision making

process.

3) Give commercial fishermen more representation on the

BOF.

4) Form an (ethics?) committee that could field grievances and assure that the BOF is functioning as

intended. There needs to be some form of checks and balances.

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I would like to say that I support the BOF process but feel that it needs to be adjusted if it is to work

fairly and effectively. I think that a task force would be warranted at this point.

On the subject of quality I don’t know what the solution is. A standard that could be recognized by the

state, sounds like a good idea. I’m reluctant to have the state take on this role but the industry simply is

not responding fast enough to deal with this most pressing of issues. The traditional canneries, in

particular, seem reluctant to move in this direction. There is no question in anyone’s mind as to the

importance of quality if we are going to survive in the marketplace. Dealing with this issue should be at

the top of the priority list. Fish should be carefully handled, bled, slush iced, and delivered within 12

hours of harvesting to qualify for recognition by the state for meeting quality criteria.

On the subject of fish farms a saying commonly attributed to the wiseguys comes to mind –

“fuggeddaboudit”! I think it’s a waste of paper and time to spend money on a white paper study.

On the subject of state buy back of permits and boats that gets another “fuggeddaboudit”! If you can’t

make it then the door is that a way.

Thank you for giving me the time to carry on about issues relevant to the state and my family. My wife

and I have been involved in commercial fishing in Alaska for most of our life and we would like our

children to have the same wonderful opportunity.

Sincerely,

Brad and Kay Underwood

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To: Senator Ben Stevens

Joint Legislative Salmon Task Force

From: Al Bauman

Kvichak Setnetters' Association

Box 911118

Anchorage, AK. 99509

Dear Sir,

Comments will be predominately limited to the Bristol Bay sockeye fishery. Its quite obvious questions

from the various committees are inter-linked to a degree as are our replies.

Quality

The standards of quality should come from the processor along with incentives. However, some

processors still offer production bonuses rather than quality bonuses. Several years ago we approached a

couple of processors seeking a way to increase the value of our raw fish product. We volunteered to ice

our set net fish if they would provide ice. Both processors one, which was on ASMI's board, stated the

cost of providing ice made icing unfeasible. They went on to say our set net fish had a high percentage

of # 1s because we delivered early and often due to the minimal holding capacity of skiffs making it

unnecessary to ice. What standards are necessary and who should set them? An "Alaska State quality

seal" might spur the processors on. Unfortunately, Japanese owned or controlled processors control most

of our Bristol Bay fish. Do we ask the Japanese to set the standards? Where would the incentive come

from?

Marketing and Governance

We had great hopes that ASMI would open the U.S. domestic to our Bristol Bay sockeye. That is what

we thought we were getting and why we supported ASMI to begin with. During the early 90's the 1%

ASMI tax accessed Bristol Bay fishermen accounted for up to 75% of the total fishermen generated

funds. Yet, the processor controlled Board (by influence not number) chose to push the low-end cheaper

fish. After all, sockeye went to Japan and weren't made available. So essentially what Bristol Bay has

done is to subsidize the processors' promotion of other's low-end fish. It isn't the employees of ASMI

we question it's the Board. We've lost faith.

In the Bay we need alternate markets not just one dictating what they will pay. Possibly a tax incentive

could be offered to new global markets. By this we mean anywhere other than Japan. The drawback

would be how to monitor the movement of "tax incentive" fish. Possibly the next year's processing

license issuance could depend on the proof of sales of these "tax incentive" fish in the new markets.

Circumvention of this requirement by operating under a new name would have to be somehow

blocked. In the past a processor would burn the fisherman then operate under a new name the next year.

For example in 1981 Martin Seafoods operated in the Naknek-Kvichak district and failed to pay

fishermen at season's end. The next year Martin operated as Homer Seafoods in Egegik and stung the

fishermen there the next two years. Severe penalties need to be dealt these white-collar criminals. This is

one area the Legislature could help.

More common sense need be applied by ADF&G. Last year the Kvichak River, the most prolific

sockeye producing river system in the world, was closed to fishing out of fear of a spawning shortfall.

ADF&G took conservation steps in the Kvichak, Naknek, Egegik and Ugashik districts of Bristol Bay to

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promote the return of Kvichak stocks. Fishermen supported the actions it made sense. Yet, knowing

there was to be a questionable run of Kvichak stocks ADF&G allowed the Area M's June intercept

sockeye harvest to happen. 250,000-300,000 Bristol Bay bound sockeye were harvested. ADF&G have

no idea where these fish were destined. Run timings differ annually so claims as to where they were

bound can't intelligently be made. Where is the conservation in that? The Area M June sockeye intercept

fishery should not exist. Furthermore, managers in area M do not freely pass information to Bristol Bay

managers. This is fact! The Legislature cannot legislate common sense but can require performance of

its Department heads.

We support the Board of Fish process as it is. It brings the State to the people.

Hatcheries

We question the wisdom of hatcheries. Why produce more fish for an already flooded market? It

doesn't make sense throwing good money after bad. Nobody knows what the strain of hundreds of

millions of hatchery fish is doing to the ecosystem. Annually the State begs the federal government to

buy excess pinks.

Production

We feel a big part of Bristol Bay's problems are caused by processor shortsightedness, greed and

Japanese influence. Attrition isn't always a bad thing. Until we get new honest buyers willing to work

with the fishermen sharing rewards as well as losses things won't change.

Some of us are in situations where families have operated multiple permits for years putting profits back

into the operation thinking it was an investment. Family members move on finding more gainful

employment rather than trying to survive fishing. Now being able to fish less permits cuts our producing

power which starts a chain of negative situations less income to upgrade gear, sites and methods. The

number of operating permits won't decrease because those leaving will sell. We would like to see a set

net operator in Bristol Bay be able to own and fish up to three permits. That would give us the same

amount of net overall as a drift fisherman. This would give us a chance of surviving without increasing

the amount of web in the water. Since setnetters are predominately Alaska residents it would allow nonresidents

an opportunity to leave a fishery that is fast becoming cost prohibitive.

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Steven D Bruno

PO Box 925, Pebble Beach, CA 93953

November 26, 2002

Comments presented on 15 November 2002 in Seattle at the Joint Legislative Salmon Task Force

Meeting.

My name is Steven D. Bruno and I have gillnetted for salmon since 1956. I began fishing in

Bristol Bay in 1965. I have also seined in California for herring, squid, and sardines. I count myself as

part of the historical fleet having grandfathers that came to Alaska with the Alaska Packers Assoc before

the turn of the century. My experience and therefore my comments pertain only to the Bristol Bay

fishery which is a high production gillnet fishery.

I believe that it is imperative that any solution adopted be adapted to the particular fishing area

and type of gear. The standards for a low production fishery such as trolling should not be forced upon

the Bristol Bay fleet. Where the product is going (canned and frozen), the infrastructure in place, and

the limits of the price for that product are the parameters that cannot be ignored. If individuals or certain

packers want to treat Bristol Bay salmon like troll caught fish and market it accordingly, I think the state

should support them in their efforts. But the state would be very foolish to mandate this type of

handling destined for very particular markets for the Bay as a whole. Bristol Bay has to move a great

deal of production and the quality measures have to face a reality check. I also believe that most of the

quality measures suggested for the Bay do not address the fundamental problems of why the Bristol Bay

fish has quality problems when it enters the fresh or frozen markets. There are seven topics that I wish

to cover.

1. Buyback or Common Harvest. Bristol Bay needs to decide if it is going to buy back permits

to an optimum number such as 1200 for the drift fleet or whether we are going to give an increased

value to the inactive permits by having permits such as drift allowed only some length under 150

fathoms or by having all permits take part in a common harvest be it by traps or seines. If the goal is to

buy back permits, then the inactive permits must not be given a value outside of their use. The buy back

means that the active fleet must pay for it and the active fleet will never be able to pay for it if an active

fisherman needs three permits to operate 150 fathoms.

If the state wants a common harvest, don’t talk about a buy back. No one will sell at a buy back

price. The permit will become a passive investment. This topic is fundamental and needs to be

addressed before we get too far down the road. I personally prefer the Buy Back with appropriate

changes in the Alaska constitution or statutes that guarantees the fleet reduction.

2. Quality in the Bristol Bay Drift fishery is brought about by the following methods.

a. We need to have Bristol Bay Management focused on harvesting for quality.

1. We need short openings followed by closures so that the fish can be immersed

in brine on the tenders after each tide. These tenders then leave on the following tide to deliver the fish

to the processor.

2. Short openings followed by closures keep fish distributed throughout the

district which eliminates the line fishery. Line fishing brutalizes the fish and a mangled fish caught in a

line battle is not restored by spraying it with RSW in the hold of a gillnetter.

3. Curtailment of ebb fishing near lines where the boat is not drifting but towing

the net to keep it legal within the district will also enhance quality.

4. We must restore the fishery to a Drift Fishery and prohibit massive towing and

dragging of nets.

b. Regulation of buyers.

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1. Fish caught and delivered at the end of the tide will have been on the boat for at most a few